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Jonathan refused to shake Jude Perry's hand when he found her. She confirmed that she and others burnt down Gwydir Forest because Nikola Orsinov asked her to. She explains that she could reach into Jonathan's chest and burn his heart, but decides not to.

Jonathan says that he believes he serves Beholding, as Jude serves The Lightless Flame, which she calls The Desolation. She says she won't kill Jonathan as a favour to Elias, as repayment for him killing Gertrude. Jonathan starts to compel Jude to explain why she wanted Gertrude dead, but she burns him, telling him to stop. Regardless, she decides to give him some advice.

Statement Begins Edit

Jude explains that flames must be fed or they go out. She used to be a stockbroker, but the bank went under after some mysterious fires. She started to become depressed before she met Agnes Montague. The two talked about sacrifice and power, as they did, strangers gathered around them. One of them, Sandy, was dismissive of Jude, who pushed her away but her hand sank into her waxlike flesh. After Jude removed her hand, Sandy stood up and reshaped it although it looked a little different, and nodded her approval to Agnes.

Jude knew she had to make a sacrifice to The Desolation, someone who had value. She chose her colleague and friend Nicolas Trikenzo, whose wife, Julie, had just given birth to their first child: Desmond. She got him drunk and stabbed him to death. After she did, his body burnt and she felt her senses sharpen as she felt the warmth of The Desolation. The death wasn't the thing that it craved, but the destruction of his life. She also burnt down his new house and forged his signature to have his wife's assets seized. She still keeps an eye on Desmond to see if there is anything worth taking from him.

Jude continued to burn people around her but, thanks to help from other members of the Lightless Flame cult, she was never caught. She was living for the pain that she caused and for Agnes. 

Jude doused herself in petrol in front of Gretchin, her girlfriend, and immolated herself, feeling her bones crack and pop.

Post-Statement Edit

Jonathan starts to ask more questions, but Jude says that she would kill him if he compelled her. She confirmed that she met Agnes in 1989 and completed her 'transformation' in 1991, putting her in her 50s. Jonathan notes that she doesn't look 50 and she replies, "Wax is easy to mold", changing her face.

Jonathan asks Jude what he can feed Beholding, but she doesn't know.

Jonathan starts to leave, muttering about dead ends, but Jude stops him, saying she knows where Michael Crew is and that he hangs around with the Fairchilds, stating he's closer to Beholding than The Desolation. She says the price for this information is Jonathan shaking her hand, which he does, screaming.